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BQ40Z60: Problem with configuration bq40z60 in bqStudio and understanding

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Part Number:BQ40Z60

Hi,

I built custom PCB with BQ40Z60 based on BQ40z60EVM.

Firstly, I have problem with understanding some passages from here

A resistor cell simulator can be used instead of battery cells. Connect a resistor between each of the contacts on the J3 connector (for example, from 1N to 1P, from 1P to 2P, and so forth) until the desired number of cells has been achieved. A power supply can provide power to the cell simulator. Set the power supply to the desired cell voltage x the number of cells, and attach the ground wire to 1N and the positive wire to 4P, for example, for a 3S configuration with a 3.6-V cell voltage, set the power supply to 3 x 3.6 = 10.8 V.

 

It means that instead of the batteries I have connected 1k-resistors and (in my case) between the 1N and 1P terminals I connect 4*3,6 = 14.4 Volts ? And I have still connected adapter 20V ?

Because as is mentioned below in italics the adapter should be connected.

Charger supply voltage connection across VAC and PGND Attach the power supply for the charger to the J1 terminal block. Connect the positive load wire to at least one of the two terminal block positions labeled VAC. Connect the ground wire for the load to at least one of the two terminal block positions labeled PGND (see Figure 1).

 

So I am bit confused about connecting 2 sources against each other.

Secondly I have probelm with bqStudio.

I tried to connect 3 laboratory sources with 4 Volts(instead of batteries) in series and after half a day I got my voltage from sources to OUTPUT. I tried almost everything and I don't know where exactly the problem was, but I think after turning off UTD (under temperature discharge protection) I could Turn on DSG_FET. I did that, becouse as it is shown in the picture below I measure temeprature, cell temperature and T_ambient as -273,2°C. 


(I had connected 3S and 4S batteries, and I always set that in bqstudio. I dont have jumper J4, but I think it is just for charger voltage. When I am charging batteries, then I have 4S. So there the problem wasn't I think)

It could be good, if I measure some better temperature, but in fact I don't need it. I was searching that and I don't even know what it measures. It is Temperature of outside? I need just temperatures from TS1 to TS4.

So I got working that situation, when I connect batteries and I want to dischrge them. But it is a bit wierd that I have to tell bq40z60 for turning on that FET. I thought It will be automatical, and when I turn it ON, I will see voltage on the output.

Now the biggest problem for me is that, I can't make working charging process. I tried that just with resistors (without supply for them as I told Above, I am bit confused about that) and I couldn't measure voltage on the risistors. 

When I sent CHG_FET_TOGGLE command, XCHG lighted green, but on Gate I didn't measure correct voltage for open that transistor. So I couldn't "manually" turn CHG FET on.

I would like to know, if ithere is any option fof automatic control. I mean that when I connect Adapter it automatically starts charging and provide Voltage on the output. Or when I dosconnect adapter It will automatically provide energy from batteries. Is it possible ? Becouse I canť find any easy solution.

Unfortunately, I lost my .srec file and becouse I am working on that in school as my bachelor thesis, I have to wait until next wednesday. So if there is possibility of finding any help without that file I would be glad.

Is there some tutorial for that or some pdf, where is it written, what should i set to make it work? I found this, but I couldn't find  inside ,for example what measure Cell_Temperature or Temperature, and what is their smallest value. (I think It is -273,2). Or if Turning off Under temperature protection is enaugh for getting it work, when I measure that figures as -273,2°C. 

And I probably still don't understand, what exactly thet Battery gauge should do.

I will be glad for any help.

Regards Ondrej


BQ35100: BQ35100 Current sampling rate Query

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Part Number:BQ35100

Hi Team,

Hope you are doing well.

My customer is using BQ35100, and now we have a confusion about the internal ADC sampling rate.

I saw conversion time=1s in our datasheet, does it mean that the current sampling rate is 1Hz?

Because the load current in my customer's application is narrow pulse current under most condition, we do see some accumulated error.

We discharge battery for 63 hours, Multi-meter shows 235mAH discharge capacity, while 205mAH calculated by BQ35100.

May I have your suggestion? Thanks.

BR,

Luke

Can BQ34110 and BQ34Z100-G1 do cell balance and gauge without Battery monitor,protection & Authentication solution IC such as BQ76940 or BQ76PL455

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Can  BQ34110 and BQ34Z100-G1 independently work to do cell balance and gauge without  Battery monitor,protection & Authentication solution IC such as BQ76940 or BQ76PL455

BQ28Z610: Pack+ have 5.7V ripple issue

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Part Number:BQ28Z610

HI Sir 

Please kindly help to confirm why Pack+ have abnormal yellow waveform when the battery pack charge done 

I think 5.7V ripple voltage is not correct on Pack+

Before remove R6

After remove R6

Pin7 DSG voltage (Remove R6 or without remove R6 ,the result is the same)

Pin9 CHG voltage (Remove R6 or without remove R6 ,the result is the same)

BQ28Z610: Posible to get DFFS using BQstudio without eval board

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Part Number:BQ28Z610

Hi, 

Is it possible to configure a DFFS file using bqstudio without having the eval board? or will it only allow you to create one if it can talk to a fuel gauge?

Thanks,

Reuben

Can bq4050,bq40z60,bq40z50-R1 do cell balance independently

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I have 12V 20AH (3S,10P) Li-on Battery Pack and currently designing BMS with Cell Balance and Fuel Gauge Feature and like to know whether  bq4050, bq40z60, bq40z50-R1 can do cell balance independently because BQ76920(has cell balance feature but doesnt have algorithm/function in it,so it) requires BQ78350-R1(which has algorithm/function for cell balance).

So i like to know whether  bq4050,bq40z60,bq40z50-R1 has cell balance structure and algorithm/function in it.

BQ28Z610: Question about Charge Voltage

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Part Number:BQ28Z610

Hi,

I did a learning cycle on a 2S Grepow battery with a charge voltage of 4390 mV (maximum of 4400 mV for this battery).

After reading again the battery's datasheet, I realized that the recommended charge voltage is 4350 mV, so this voltage will be used to design the battery charger and in the final application.

So my question is, would this 40 mV overcharge affect the precision of my learning cycle ? Should I do the learning cycle again with 4350 mV charge voltage ?

Thanks for your help,

Mickael

bq34Z100-G1: GPC Cycle option missing from bqstudio toolbar

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Part Number:bq34Z100-G1

I have been developing with both the bq34110 and bq34Z100-G1 gas gauge EVMs.

I have decided to use the bq34Z100-G1 for our product and I now want to GPC cycle the battery to get a Chem ID, but the GPC cycle option does not appear as an option in bqstudio toolbar when connected to the bq34Z100-G1 EVM (GPC cycle is available when connected to the bq34110 EVM).

Why is there no option for GPC cycle for the bq34Z100-G1? This is a really useful feature and I have already made the interface hardware needed to control charging and discharging of the cells.

I am using bqstudio v1.3.54.1 with an EV2400 with firmware v0.18

Thank you

Peter


BQ34Z100-G1: Fuel Gauge Learning capacity of Old Cells

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Part Number:BQ34Z100-G1

Hi,

We are using a BQ34Z100-G1 fuel gauge for a lithium ion battery management system.

We successfully performed a learning cycle on some brand new cells and have been using that golden image successfully for some time now.

In our application we are starting to use second life cells which have been in service in other applications before we use them in our product meaning that their capacity is not what it once was. As we have no control over their previous life, each set of cells will likely be at a different SOH so we would like the BQ chip to re-learn the cell capacity. To do this we have enabled the Impedance Track Algorithm with the IT ENABLE command.

After one full cycle, the SoC appears to track well on a charge (suggesting it has learnt a new capacity) however the SoC on discharge appears to be very inaccurate (it looks as if it thinks its a brand new cell). This appears to be regardless of whether its a full charge or not.

Over a number of cycles it appears to be improving however we would like it to learn as quickly as possible for our end user.

Are there any settings or procedures which will allow the BQ chip to learn the new capacity quicker? or for it to learn discharge as fast as charge?

Thanks,

James

PS. I've attached a graph of our charge discharge cycles. We have plotted the BFG SoC along with a SoC we calculate in the microcontroller Firmware based on a simple coulomb counting algorithm.

BQ20Z95: Negative values in Ra table

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Part Number:BQ20Z95

We have got returned batteries from customer complaining over batteries reporting empty after few cycles. Reading battery status using "bq Evaluation Software" we can see and measure that the battery capacity and cell voltages are fine, however even with 100% charged, Abs state of charge report 0 and RemainCharge Alarm (which we use in our device to activate safe power-down) is set.

Unlocking the battery and looking into DF shows every setup correct and identical to Golden Device. However - the updated Ra-table shows strange negative values for two of the four cells (4s3p config). for two celles - all gridpoints shows -32767 . All cells Qmax seems reasonable (6800 to 7000mAh) with Qmax-pack identical to the lowest cell. 

We have tried charging - relaxing (day) decharging - relaxing again - see no update of the Ra values for any of the four cells at all !

What is wrong - what shall we do ?

  We have produced this battery for almost 10 years - newer seen problems like this before

BR Helge Larsen

BQ34Z100EVM: guide to do "learning cycle"

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Part Number:BQ34Z100EVM

Hi

I'm have a trouble with Battery Management Studio (v.1.3.80), i'm using BQ34z100EVM, but that's not so simple such others version of BQ, i can't get to do "the learning cycle".

In some versions of BQ studio, this option is very helpfull its have a graphic interface, and so you just have click, i haven't that option in to tool i'm using.

I have calibrated successfully the temperature, voltage and current parameters to cell(12V,7AH).

Anyone could guide me with especific documents, datasheet which i need or the currect steps to do "the learning cycle", i need to get the graph of these 3 parameters.

Thanks a lot.

BQ27510-G3: GPOUT_POL pole setting

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Part Number:BQ27510-G3

Hi,

We have created the golden image files for the fuel gauge with the battery used in the system.

We need a clarification on the BAT_LOW/BAT_GD pin configuration. We would like to use the Pin 12 as BAT_GD and the polarity we wanted for the pin is Low. So we have set the LSB byte of the OP Config register as B (GPOUT_POL=1, GPOUT_INT=0, BAT_FN=1, TEMPS =1), But we have seen BAT_GD going only Low only if we write the GPOUT_POL bit as 0. But using the bqeasy (0.9.92 version) tool we are not getting an option to make that bit as 0. Can you please let us know how do we set the bit.

I have attached the .ezy file and .gg files.

Regards

Ravi

BQ78350-R1: Cell Undervoltage Protection

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Part Number:BQ78350-R1

The technical reference manual (see yellow highlight in snipit below) indicates that the [XCHG] bit in the Operation Status register is set to a logic 1 in the Trip state. Shouldn't this state that the [XDSG] bit is set to a logic 1?

BQ78350-R2-DEVICE-FW: Revision Two BQZ File not working for calibration, again..

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Part Number:BQ78350-R2-DEVICE-FW

It seems that everyone having issues with the calibration procedure got a new BQZ file to make it work under R1. I've upgraded to the R2 firmware and the calibration procedure is broken in the same way. 

Message: "Raw Calibration Block Size Returned after command 0xF081 or 0xF082 is an incorrect length."

Do you have a new BQZ file that will allow calibration for R2 firmware? 

thanks! 

BQ34Z100-G1: I2C communication issue, SCL line driven low for about 4.5[ms] randomly

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Part Number:BQ34Z100-G1

Support Path: /Product/Development and troubleshooting/

Hello, 

We're using a BQ34Z100-G1, and simply reading the following registers every 100[ms] through I2C

- register 0x02: SOC + ME

- register 0x10: I

- register 0x0C: TEMP

- register 0x08: VOLT

- register 0x06: FCC

Randomely (about every 10s), the device drives the SCL line low during ~4.5[ms] when issuing the first start condition.

I can't see any explanation for that behavior. Is it normal? Can the bq34z100 be "busy" for such duration?

I2C configuration:

- 100kHz

- 10kohm pull-up

- no other node on I2C bus except the STM32 driving the bus as master, and the bq34z100.

Thanks


BQ27750: Unseal code

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Part Number:BQ27750


How to obtain the default unseal code in order to access all the functionality of the device.

Thinks

BQ27750EVM-837: evaluation board programming

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Part Number:BQ27750EVM-837

Hello, I am use BQ27750EVM-837 evaluation board (HWv:0xA1; FWv:0x0004) with last version of bqStusio(1.3.54.1) and have 3 question:


1) bqStudio does not support that board and requires a file: 1750_0_04-bq27750.bqz. What version of bqStudio support BQ27750EVM?

2) when  make "golden image" - the operation is finished with error because check sum calcuclate is wrong. How to make "golden image" correct?

3) After programming BQ27750 by file "bq27750_v0_04_build_12.srec" (found on the e2e.ti.com/.../626728)
push the button "Execute FW" and has message: "Executing frimware...Client waited more than 30 seconds for pipe." How to return the device to NORMAL mode after programming?

Thank you!

Best regards, Danil

BQ27GDK000EVM: Learning cycle discharge issue.

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Part Number:BQ27GDK000EVM

I had trouble completing a learning cycle using a the custom designed board with the BQ27530 fuel gauge and BQ24161 so I purchased the BQ27GDK000EVM.  I connected a BQ27530EVM, not the custom board, and attached the battery pack that will be used for the design to the BQ27530EVM.  I connected the SYS to EXT Load+ J4 and GND to EXT Load- J8 on the GDK board.  I ran a charge discharge cycle and everything seemed to work fine with a charge current of 1000mA and a discharge current of 480mA.  I submitted the zip file to the GPC calculator and selected the suggested chemistry ID in bqStudio and .

Next I began the learning cycle using the script for GDK in bqStudio.  The first attempt stopped at the charging stage since the design capacity is 4800mAh and the DCby2 was 2400mA but the maximum is 2000mA so the script stopped.  I modified the script so the maximum charge rate to 2000mA and started the process again.

The script issued the command to start the discharge cycle and it began to discharge at the DCby5 rate 960mA.  At some point the discharge current reduced to 12mA.  Now even using the manual Discharge Control for GDK, no matter what I set the discharge current to it never discharges any higher than 12mA.  I have power cycled the GDK and even completely disconnected all the EVM boards and connected them back.  I reset the BQ27530-G1 data memory back to the default thinking something during the learning cycle caused the discharge current to be limited.

I am attaching the log file that was being captured during the learning cycle that shows around line 4540 the current went from -948 to -12.  I don’t see any changes in measurements or the register values.

Is there any suggestion on what I should look for that would be causing the GDK to only discharge at 12mA?

I checked the fuses F1 and F3 which are in the area of the GDK load and both were good.  I tried to look at the schematic for the GDK to probe some test points but the quality of the schematic images in the manual are so poor I can not read the reference designators.

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BQ34110: Dashboard, Programing gauge

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Part Number:BQ34110

Hi,

Please answer my query.(Please visit the site to view this file)

I am working with NiMh 10 cells batteries using bq34110 gauge. I have calibrated the gauge and also performed a qualifying discharge thereby the gauge estimated the capacity.

I am now trying to program the gauge, so when I go to the programming window and click the programming button a window pops up saying programming device and goes.

Initially I was receiving no acknowledge from device for execute fW

Later I clicked again  on execute FW button and got the message  "Programming-Priority sequence already in progress".

1. Is this message a valid message if yes then what should be the next step?

2. Could you please look into my gg files and dashboard and qualifying discharge files and advise me if there are any issues ?

Regards,

Jofina Jijin

BQ78350-R1: Problem with ASOC

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Part Number:BQ78350-R1

Hi,

We are using the BQ78350-R1 .

When charging the battery, the ASOC turn brutaly from 97% to 100% at the elapsed time : 12950,735.

My client is asking for an explanation. Other than ASOC algorithm is adapting to the charge, i cannot give an explanation.

The log file is attached.

Thank you(Please visit the site to view this file)

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